phone  (937) 890-5197

Shopsmith Forums

%nbsp;

40 posts 1 2 3 4

Re: You should have warned me...

#255986 by amboyna » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm

badtheba wrote:Here's photos. I just decided to unload it at work because it's hearted and I don't really have room for it at home right now. Nothing really special came with it except the speed changer. That and the fact that no one really had to drive out of their way for it made it desirable.ImageImage

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk

Nice looking machine. Definitely less rust than the one I bought yesterday. Drove 160 miles figuring it had the rare chuck adapter based on photo 1.
And I was right. Also had a speed changer with the numbers going to 8.
Now the problem is getting the adapter off the chuck. Stuff that sits for 70 years...
Curious as to what motor came with your ER.

Attachments

10E_PortOrchard.jpg
10E_PortOrchard.jpg (107.78 KiB) Viewed 1275 times
adapter.jpg
adapter.jpg (86.25 KiB) Viewed 1275 times

---

Shopsmith 10E S/N 5804 being restored.
Shopsmith 10ER S/N R39267; purchased 10-10-50 in San Francisco.
Bruce Brenner
http://www.vintagepbks.com/shopsmith.html

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255987 by badtheba » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:51 pm

It came with a GE 1/2hp, that swivels on its bracket. Bigger diameter than another GE 1/2hp I have.

I've also accumulated several motor options. I have 2-3 motors about this size, several good treadmill motor options for when I attempt a variable speed DC lathe option, and one baldor 2HP 3450 rpm that can be wired 110 or 220. I'm putting off any refurbishing on any of the rest until I get my first one completed though.

The speed changer on this one was in great shape. The other speed changer I have has been welded more than once. Though it's still functional, I wanted one that wasn't modified.

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255988 by amboyna » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:54 pm

My lowest serial number yet. I probably will keep buying lower numbers until I buy 1001. Then I can quit. :)

Attachments

Badge.jpg
Badge.jpg (141.04 KiB) Viewed 1272 times

---

Shopsmith 10E S/N 5804 being restored.
Shopsmith 10ER S/N R39267; purchased 10-10-50 in San Francisco.
Bruce Brenner
http://www.vintagepbks.com/shopsmith.html

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255989 by amboyna » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:57 pm

badtheba wrote:It came with a GE 1/2hp, that swivels on its bracket. Bigger diameter than another GE 1/2hp I have.

I've also accumulated several motor options. I have 2-3 motors about this size, several good treadmill motor options for when I attempt a variable speed DC lathe option, and one baldor 2HP 3450 rpm that can be wired 110 or 220. I'm putting off any refurbishing on any of the rest until I get my first one completed though.

The speed changer on this one was in great shape. The other speed changer I have has been welded more than once. Though it's still functional, I wanted one that wasn't modified.

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk

It's amazing how many speed changers are broken from improper use.
That Baldor 2HP must be a monster.

---

Shopsmith 10E S/N 5804 being restored.
Shopsmith 10ER S/N R39267; purchased 10-10-50 in San Francisco.
Bruce Brenner
http://www.vintagepbks.com/shopsmith.html

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255991 by JPG » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:39 pm

A word of caution re the 0-8 speed changer. I would simply refrain from going above 5. Check the sliding sheave. It should NOT have the step at the bore. The step prevents adjusting until the belt rubbed on the shaft.

Never ever adjust the speed and allow the springs on the control screw to become fully compressed. Doing so causes the breakage mentioned above.

---

╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E(SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: RE: Re: You should have warned me...

#255996 by badtheba » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:32 pm

JPG wrote:A word of caution re the 0-8 speed changer. I would simply refrain from going above 5. Check the sliding sheave. It should NOT have the step at the bore. The step prevents adjusting until the belt rubbed on the shaft.

Never ever adjust the speed and allow the springs on the control screw to become fully compressed. Doing so causes the breakage mentioned above.
The first speed changer I obtained had not only had an ear welded back on and reinforce, but was also welded down the middle. Can't remember without pulling it out again if the second ear was also repaired. At any rate, the machine it came in was well used on a farm.

The ER I just got that I pictured above was kept very clean. The friend that picked it up for me talked to the owner a bit, and he said even when he used it less, he at least went out once a year and went through all recommended maintenance. It's quite clean, and everything moves well and is lubricated. If I do anything to it, I'll just be putting a new top on its homemade bench and putting it to use.

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: RE: Re: You should have warned me...

#255997 by JPG » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:00 pm

badtheba wrote:
JPG wrote:A word of caution re the 0-8 speed changer. I would simply refrain from going above 5. Check the sliding sheave. It should NOT have the step at the bore. The step prevents adjusting until the belt rubbed on the shaft.

Never ever adjust the speed and allow the springs on the control screw to become fully compressed. Doing so causes the breakage mentioned above.
The first speed changer I obtained had not only had an ear welded back on and reinforce, but was also welded down the middle. Can't remember without pulling it out again if the second ear was also repaired. At any rate, the machine it came in was well used on a farm.

The ER I just got that I pictured above was kept very clean. The friend that picked it up for me talked to the owner a bit, and he said even when he used it less, he at least went out once a year and went through all recommended maintenance. It's quite clean, and everything moves well and is lubricated. If I do anything to it, I'll just be putting a new top on its homemade bench and putting it to use.

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk


Also make sure to NOT tighten the speed changer against the headstock(it needs to float).

---

╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E(SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255998 by badtheba » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:10 pm

Skip's speed changer setup instructions say to put a thick washer between the speed changer and headstock. Would I still not tighten it with such a spacer in the middle?

Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#255999 by JPG » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:25 pm

Finger tight only!

Problem arises when attempting to move headstock and changer simultaneously.

---

╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E(SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Re: You should have warned me...

#256056 by amboyna » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:39 am

JPG wrote:A word of caution re the 0-8 speed changer. I would simply refrain from going above 5. Check the sliding sheave. It should NOT have the step at the bore. The step prevents adjusting until the belt rubbed on the shaft.

Never ever adjust the speed and allow the springs on the control screw to become fully compressed. Doing so causes the breakage mentioned above.


I'm a little lost. Is this the sliding sheave?

The previous owner did crank it to 8 where it scarred the crank shaft threads.
See photo 2.

Attachments

sheave.jpg
sheave.jpg (62.92 KiB) Viewed 1151 times
shaft.jpg
shaft.jpg (97.61 KiB) Viewed 1151 times

---

Shopsmith 10E S/N 5804 being restored.
Shopsmith 10ER S/N R39267; purchased 10-10-50 in San Francisco.
Bruce Brenner
http://www.vintagepbks.com/shopsmith.html

Post a reply  Reply with quote 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bill50cal and 36 guests

Board indexDelete all board cookies

Welcome to Shopsmith. Please fill in this form and we'll send you more information about the Shopsmith MARK 7 and other woodworking topics.

Subscribe to our mailing list

* indicates required