How long is too long? MarkVII

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LanternMan
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How long is too long? MarkVII

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One of my friends gave me his Mark VII so my wife can make some wood projects. He cautioned me about oiling the machine regularly, and not to leave it running too long.
I have read some previous posts about the cam melting and I'm scared to death of breaking or melting the cam on this machine. I have cleaned and oiled it and it seems to be working as designed.
My question is can it run for 30 min? 10 min. ? or and hour? how about using the lathe function it could run for quite a bit during a turning operation.
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This is my 'opinion', so take it for what it is worth.

I think that with adequate lubrication, the inner race and 'fork' will not get sufficiently hot to melt the cam.
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JPG wrote:This is my 'opinion', so take it for what it is worth.

I think that with adequate lubrication, the inner race and 'fork' will not get sufficiently hot to melt the cam.

A couple of times now I have tipped my old Mark VII up to the left and put a small pool of oil in on the tiny bearing and left it sitting that way a day or two and the oil goes down some. It is staying quiet. I have also ran the unit at slow speed a minute while tipped up and the oil standing there.
I think we discussed doing that some time back?
I have not really been using it much at all but I want to keep it lubed there. It is supposed to be my semi-dedicated dado machine but I'm not getting in a lot of shop time now. :rolleyes: Maybe more this winter.
I do have a spare cam but hope I never need it... :rolleyes:



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Bill Mayo recommended generous oiling of the control sheave(in fast position), raising to drill press and letting the oil seep into the bearing. I think that a good idea for the VII as well.
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Thank you for the replies, We have been getting familiar with the machine. and what it does. Now we need to decide what to build! I have discovered that the next thing I buy will be dust masks.

I Like the idea of tilting it to let the oil seep into the bearings.
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i agree with JPG. i don't think it can get hot enough inside the headstock to melt the cam UNLESS the bearing DOES seize up and overheat. nylon doesn't melt until at least 440deg. f.
having said that, does anyone have a good procedure for replacing the cam follower bearing when needed. i've read some horror story in a past thread about breaking the cam follower trying to remove the bearing. i wouldn't want to break an irreplaceable part.
sorry if i'm posting this in the wrong place.
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