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Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263164 by Tenfingers » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:55 am

Hello, I am very new to woodworking and my Shopsmith dust collector dies a noble death. I decided to go the Harbor freight route and built a trash can dust collection cyclone for simple(ish) chip disposal for about $250. I made a video on the testing and configuration that is below:

https://youtu.be/KSSzVc63JWo

Please take a look and let me know what you all think. The cleaner shop is starting to take form and this forum has been extraordinarily helpful in determining what all these dang parts and pieces do.

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263919 by Carverr » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:03 am

Not bad!

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263923 by masonsailor2 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:37 am

I have found that the heavy duty Husky Contractor bags from HD work great on the HF dust collectors. A little trick that makes changing the bags very easy is to use three pieces of duct tape to hold the bag onto the collector while you put the ring on. Those bags also have ears on them that make tying them up and carrying them to the curb easier.
Paul

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#263940 by Tenfingers » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:47 pm

masonsailor2 wrote:I have found that the heavy duty Husky Contractor bags from HD work great on the HF dust collectors. A little trick that makes changing the bags very easy is to use three pieces of duct tape to hold the bag onto the collector while you put the ring on. Those bags also have ears on them that make tying them up and carrying them to the curb easier.
Paul



Thanks for the tip! I will try the duct tape next time I have to replace the bag. BTW, Thanks for using the proper spelling. Drives me nut when people type "Duck" tape.

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263947 by JPG » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:26 pm

Tenfingers wrote:
masonsailor2 wrote:I have found that the heavy duty Husky Contractor bags from HD work great on the HF dust collectors. A little trick that makes changing the bags very easy is to use three pieces of duct tape to hold the bag onto the collector while you put the ring on. Those bags also have ears on them that make tying them up and carrying them to the curb easier.
Paul



Thanks for the tip! I will try the duct tape next time I have to replace the bag. BTW, Thanks for using the proper spelling. Drives me nut when people type "Duck" tape.


Unfortunately most of the 'stuff' out there is not duct tape so duck tape is a likely accurate name.

Real duct tape is thick, strong, very sticky. Also it is NOT made from plastic.

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263948 by Tenfingers » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:30 pm

Correct! I also think the only stuff actually made from duck is the Duck brand. I may have been misled on this.

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#263951 by jsburger » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:22 pm

Tenfingers wrote:Correct! I also think the only stuff actually made from duck is the Duck brand. I may have been misled on this.


Made from Duck??? :confused: That is the reason nobody knows the real stuff. The ad guys distort everything today with spelling and other things. Since the kids today don't know how to spell or even understand a properly constructed English sentence it is no wonder they don't know the difference.

Duct tape is a metal tape that is very sticky used to seal joints in air ducts..

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#263952 by rpd » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:29 pm

The original was "duck", as it was made from Cotton Duck which is a tightly woven canvas.
Here is the origin story.
https://www.rd.com/culture/truth-duct-tape-or-duck-tape/

and a quote from Wikipedia on how ducts are sealed..

Duct sealing

Air pressure combined with air duct leakage can lead to a loss of energy in a HVAC system. Sealing leaks in air ducts reduces air leakage, optimizes energy efficiency, and controls the entry of pollutants into the building. Before sealing ducts it is imperative to ensure the total external static pressure of the duct work, and if equipment will fall within the equipment manufacturer's specifications. If not, higher energy usage and reduced equipment performance may result.

Commonly available duct tape should not be used on air ducts (metal, fiberglass, or otherwise) that are intended for long-term use. The adhesive on so called duct tape dries and releases with time. A more common type of duct sealant is a water-based paste that is brushed or sometimes sprayed on the seams when the duct is built. Building codes and UL standards call for special fire-resistant tapes, often with foil backings and long lasting adhesives.

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263956 by jsburger » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:20 pm

rpd wrote:The original was "duck", as it was made from Cotton Duck which is a tightly woven canvas.
Here is the origin story.
https://www.rd.com/culture/truth-duct-tape-or-duck-tape/

and a quote from Wikipedia on how ducts are sealed..

Duct sealing

Air pressure combined with air duct leakage can lead to a loss of energy in a HVAC system. Sealing leaks in air ducts reduces air leakage, optimizes energy efficiency, and controls the entry of pollutants into the building. Before sealing ducts it is imperative to ensure the total external static pressure of the duct work, and if equipment will fall within the equipment manufacturer's specifications. If not, higher energy usage and reduced equipment performance may result.

Commonly available duct tape should not be used on air ducts (metal, fiberglass, or otherwise) that are intended for long-term use. The adhesive on so called duct tape dries and releases with time. A more common type of duct sealant is a water-based paste that is brushed or sometimes sprayed on the seams when the duct is built. Building codes and UL standards call for special fire-resistant tapes, often with foil backings and long lasting adhesives.


I am not sure what your point is with this. I think this is what I said. Duct tape is foil now days.

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Re: Home made dust cyclone dust collection system

#263958 by rpd » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:03 pm

jsburger wrote:
rpd wrote:The original was "duck", as it was made from Cotton Duck which is a tightly woven canvas.
Here is the origin story.
https://www.rd.com/culture/truth-duct-tape-or-duck-tape/

and a quote from Wikipedia on how ducts are sealed..

Duct sealing

Air pressure combined with air duct leakage can lead to a loss of energy in a HVAC system. Sealing leaks in air ducts reduces air leakage, optimizes energy efficiency, and controls the entry of pollutants into the building. Before sealing ducts it is imperative to ensure the total external static pressure of the duct work, and if equipment will fall within the equipment manufacturer's specifications. If not, higher energy usage and reduced equipment performance may result.

Commonly available duct tape should not be used on air ducts (metal, fiberglass, or otherwise) that are intended for long-term use. The adhesive on so called duct tape dries and releases with time. A more common type of duct sealant is a water-based paste that is brushed or sometimes sprayed on the seams when the duct is built. Building codes and UL standards call for special fire-resistant tapes, often with foil backings and long lasting adhesives.


I am not sure what your point is with this. I think this is what I said. Duct tape is foil now days.


I wasn't disagreeing with you. :) I was actually typing when you posted, it just took me longer looking up references but I don't see where we contradict each other. :cool:

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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,

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