SPAMers are Creative
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SPAMers are Creative
New user Garagebondit joined on 21 Apr 22 and has made two posts. In his first post on 21 Apr he resurrected a 2020 thread "Mouse pad platform for chair arm" in the Beginning Woodworking forum. He edited that one on 12 Dec and added a link. In his second post he resurrected a 2017 thread about LED light bulbs in the Community Forum on 2 May 22. On 20 May he edited his post and added a link.
Both posts were some what on topic but not really in the context of the thread.
Both posts have been reported.
Both posts were some what on topic but not really in the context of the thread.
Both posts have been reported.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
- chapmanruss
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
John,
I love seeing new members except when they are spammers. Thanks for your vigilance in helping keep our forum "cleaned up" from these unwanted posters.
I love seeing new members except when they are spammers. Thanks for your vigilance in helping keep our forum "cleaned up" from these unwanted posters.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
- dusty
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
What made these posts inappropriate. Why is editing to add a link considered bad for the forum.
I guess my real question is What is SPAM???
Do we have a mutually understood definition for SPAM.
I guess my real question is What is SPAM???
Do we have a mutually understood definition for SPAM.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Re: SPAMers are Creative
1. ANY first time poster with any URL in the post,
2. No!
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
1. I would add non relevant url as a definer. FWIW a relevant url is an endangered species.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
Here's what wiki has to say:
The last few instances I've seen are in the signature. I never considered the case that the spammer could put the spam links in their sig and never need to post.Most forum spam consists of links to external sites with the dual goals of increasing search engine visibility in highly competitive advertising domains such as weight loss, pharmaceuticals, gambling, pornography, real estate or loans, and generating more traffic for these commercial websites. Some of these links may contain code to track the spambot's identity so that if a sale goes through then the spammer behind the spambot can collect a commission.
Spam posts may contain anything from a single link to dozens of links. Text content is minimal, usually innocuous and unrelated to the forum's topic. Sometimes the posts may be made in old threads that are revived by the spammer solely for the purpose of spamming links. Posts may include some text to prevent the post being caught by automated spam filters that prevent posts which consist solely of external links from being submitted.
Alternatively, the spam links are posted in the user's signature, in which case the spambot will never post. The link sits quietly in the signature field, where it is more likely to be harvested by search engine spiders than discovered by forum administrators and moderators.
Greenie SN 362819 (upgraded to 510), Bandsaw 106878, Jointer SS16466
Re: SPAMers are Creative
Thank you HopefulSSer. That exactly describes the two posts I referenced in this thread. IMO it is easy to see a first time poster that posts an "on topic" post that is not in context to the thread as a potential SPAMer. Particularly when it is a very old (years sometimes) thread. Then the trick is to lay dormant and add the link weeks or months later when nobody notices. In the case of this SPAMer he added the link to one of his posts 6 months after the original post.
I have started to take notes on the ones that seem suspicious and go back and check.
I have started to take notes on the ones that seem suspicious and go back and check.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
- dusty
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
Non-relative URLs I totally understand BUT if the URL is appropriate for a woodworking site why should it be blocked/banned???
Certainly not simply because it is contained in a "first post"!
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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Dusty
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Re: SPAMers are Creative
Same here. If I see one that looks suspicious I open that post in another browser tab and check it every now and then. If it gets edited to add a link, I report it.
Not that I've seen a bunch of examples nor have I been keeping count, but I can't recall a case of a 1-post users adding a link where the link was totally appropriate and commensurate with the topic & forum.dusty wrote:if the URL is appropriate for a woodworking site why should it be blocked/banned
Greenie SN 362819 (upgraded to 510), Bandsaw 106878, Jointer SS16466
Re: SPAMers are Creative
This trick is pretty common. Many forums prohibit editing a post after a short period of time (hours) to stop it.
Ken
Ken