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silenthope wrote:
rjent wrote:I hear you, this is the second time I have used this rig on the Mark 7. I run it at the 250 RPM speed which helps. It has worked perfectly again so far. I may have to make a "muzzle" on the free end to give the quill something to push against (had to do that the last time), but so far my "plug" is working like I knew what i was doing .... :D
Hello, I'm new to the forum. I have really enjoyed reading about all the restoration stories here on this forum...the knowledge here is priceless!

I am in the process of restoring my fathers shopsmith and I'm interested in using your method for cleaning up the tubes. Can I ask how you secured the tube to the dowel at the quill end to keep it spinning? Also, did you just allow the other end just to free-spin on the plywood? You also mentioned a "muzzle" to push against the quill...??? Thanks!
Welcome silenthope! Yeah the knowledge here for us newbie shopsmithers is amazing!

The dowel I just turned as a taper originally hoping that I could "jam" the tube (with a hammer and block if need be) well enough to hold it while cleaning it up. It works fine, but eventually the tube will start slipping on the wood, and you have to jam it back on again. This time I turned a little more on it, and although you can't see it, I dipped the "dowel" into plastic dip product to give a good friction hold on the tube. Yes, it worked better this time and with no "hammer adjustments" needed. LOL

Some use the expandable plug idea, and I am sure that works better than what I did, but since my solution worked, I just kept using it (hard headed? .. :confused: ). The tube does free-spin in the plywood. I put a dab of wax on the tube while it is spinning for lubrication which seems to help. I also "cheat" by using a hand held belt sander with a 150 grit belt to get the rust off. Once cleaned, I don't worry about pits (aren't very many), I just use a sheet of 300 and up grit sandpaper (wet dry holds up better) to get the polish look.

Also remember, I am using a PowerPro Mark 7 and I can slow it down to 250 RPM which is a good safe speed for this. I have not tried this on a Mark 5, and I do wonder how it would work at the speed the Mark V runs at.

It takes me about 30 mins per tube to get them the way the pictures show :D

Give us some pictures of your project! We love pics :D
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

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Below is post I made in a thread about reconditioning bench and way tubes some time back.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 33#p175733

There are a number of ways to do it, and you scroll back through the thread to see photos of various setups various folks have used.

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silenthope wrote:
rjent wrote:I hear you, this is the second time I have used this rig on the Mark 7. I run it at the 250 RPM speed which helps. It has worked perfectly again so far. I may have to make a "muzzle" on the free end to give the quill something to push against (had to do that the last time), but so far my "plug" is working like I knew what i was doing .... :D
Hello, I'm new to the forum. I have really enjoyed reading about all the restoration stories here on this forum...the knowledge here is priceless!

I am in the process of restoring my fathers shopsmith and I'm interested in using your method for cleaning up the tubes. Can I ask how you secured the tube to the dowel at the quill end to keep it spinning? Also, did you just allow the other end just to free-spin on the plywood? You also mentioned a "muzzle" to push against the quill...??? Thanks!
Welcome board!

I started out turning a tapered wood plug on a screw center. The other end is supported by two cheap castors from Harbor Freight screwed to a piece of plywood and clamped to the extension table. A tap with a mallet will seat the plug. I made my plug out of popular and it does get chewed up. I just wrap it with a few layers of painters tape and it works fine again. If you are cleaning MK V or thin wall 10ER tubes a 1/1/2" drum sander mandrel will work. It won't fit in a thick wall 10ER tube hence the wood plug.

I have since gotten a Nova 3G lathe chuck that I use.

I run the Power Pro at 500RPMs and it works fine.
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Re: Texas Booty

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Thanks for the quick responses to my tube questions! It has given me a couple of ideas that I'll try soon! In the meantime...I've got the head torn down and sandblasted, and doing a LOT of sanding and paint stripping! Thanks for the help!
1955 Mark 5 SN-316919 (in pieces)
1956 Mark 5 SN-344051 (restoration in-work)
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Do try to take pictures as you go. We love to see machines being restored and get to know the craftsmen and women who did the work along the way.

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A "Texas Booty" teaser. The "reborn" mitering thingy :D
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Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Looks good.
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OK, because BuckeyeDennis wanted me to put some music to my next video :D, here is a chronological slide show of the "Texas Booty" 10ER rebuild. I will start a new thread for a brief rebuild presentation ..... :D

I just put together some of the pictures and made a video out of them, then laid down a keyboard riff resembling an old Sonny James song called "Gold and Silver". I programmed the synthesizer voices and just adlibed the piano then laid the sax down as a backing improv.

Here is the Youtube video:



If you don't like it, it's Dennis's fault .... :D

BTW, Geefool war is an English phonetic spelling of Gaelic for "Older Sister". As I Christened the first 10ER Keena, phonetic spelling for "Ancient one", my American born Scottish descendant wife dubbed this one .... :cool:
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Wow, Dick, what can you not do? :cool:

I had to get up at 2:00 AM this morning, and you actually made it fun! (My lovely, but slightly insane, morning-person wife has decreed that we have to hit the road at 4:00 this morning for the annual North Carolina beach pilgrimmage, packing our three teenagers, a boyfriend, and an SUV-overload of luggage and beach toys. :eek: ). Regardless, I expect 10% of the gross revenues from the video and soundtrack, including residuals .. :D
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BuckeyeDennis wrote:Wow, Dick, what can you not do? :cool:

I had to get up at 2:00 AM this morning, and you actually made it fun! (My lovely, but slightly insane, morning-person wife has decreed that we have to hit the road at 4:00 this morning for the annual North Carolina beach pilgrimmage, packing our three teenagers, a boyfriend, and an SUV-overload of luggage and beach toys. :eek: ). Regardless, I expect 10% of the gross revenues from the video and soundtrack, including residuals .. :D
Glad I could help your morning ... LOL. You will also be responsible for 10 percent of any copyright infringements .... :D
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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